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What's yer favorite operating system

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:27 pm
by NightDevil
Just curios to know who likes what :D


Edit:Resized my avatar :D
Edit: Yup now I know where y'all standinn










P.S.=Windows is the only system ive had but i've worked a little on linux and it sucks[no offense just an opinion] havn't tried mac yet but I think it's good

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:48 pm
by Jeff
Too soon...

Also, your icon is way too big.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:52 pm
by Crill3
Oh god...

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:06 pm
by Usagi
Search the forum first; try "Mac vs PC," and "OSuX vs PC" and "The World's Finest OS vs Piece of Crap" and "Steve Jobs is God/Bill Gates is Satan" and "Bill Gates: America's Hero vs Steve Jobs: Al-qaeda Sympathizer" and a few others. You'll get a fair sense of where we all stand.

Re: What's yer favorite operating system

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:16 pm
by rudel_ic
NightDevil wrote: P.S.=Windows is the only system ive had but i've worked a little on linux and it sucks[no offense just an opinion] havn't tried mac yet but I think it's good
Linux is no replacement for Windows. That's why you think it sucks - you expect Windows-like behavior and don't get that.
There's this ongoing discussion:
Do I want efficient interfaces or do I want interfaces that are easy to understand? Linux has the efficient, but unintuitive interfaces, Windows interfaces are a no-brainer but extremely inefficient.
Do I want all-in-one solutions or specialist programs? Windows has tons of programs that all do a lot of different stuff. Linux has very small functional elements you can stitch together in a script to do bigger procedural tasks.

Your opinion of Linux is not an opinion, you just don't know it. An opinion on Linux needs experience with it, expertise. If I had a day to form an opinion on the quality of a spacecraft, what would I be able to comment correctly? The shape? The colors? The toilet seat's softness?
Now you gained expertise in the Windows OS over the years and obviously can judge it. But after working a little with Linux, you think you can judge it and expect people to accept your opinion in the same way they accept your opinion of Windows? That's a joke, right?

Edit: And before you begin to complain like "Come on, it's my opinion": You won't get away with that. State why exactly Linux sucks in your opinion or feel punished.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:54 pm
by Usagi
Why not take Colicedus' approach: You can't say it sucks until you've designed a better one yourself?

To form an opinion that something sucks, all you need is one thing that you hate about it: "I hate Penguins, so Linux is the suxxor."

To argue that one is better than another, or recommend one over another, yes, then you better have more than cursory experience with it.

But he didn't say that, and you don't know what he was thinking or expecting, so you have less reason to comment on his opinion than he had to comment on Linux.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:47 pm
by rudel_ic
Hmm. You may be right, Usagi. Sorry for my harshness, NightDevil. But that's what happens when you post such statements on the internet.

All I want you to do is form an opinion that is based on experience.
In my opinion (hehe), it's really hard to not like Linux once you know how things are done with it.
It's just so much more productive than other OSes.
You know exactly what's going on when and why.
There are no reboot scenarios, no hangups and so on. You never lose control.
You can remodel your distribution on any level, reduce it to a minimal keystroke-driven environment or pump it up to show flashy 3D windows with multimedia pwnage and so on.
And the best part: You can recode programs, reuse program components via open interfaces and so on. Open Source is the win-win situation I've always been looking for before I got into Linux.

I'm using Linux and Windows parallely (I guess I've said that before) and I like them both for what they do right, but I hate Windows for what it does wrong. With Linux, there's nothing it does wrong in my usecases.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:17 pm
by BunnyWithStick
How many threads like this will we get?

Also, Windows isn't a no-brainer OS, it often forces you to do heaps of rather complicated things some times.

And if you compare installing something on a mac (Any OS version.) with installing something on a windows (Any OS version.) you'll probably find that mac does it all for you rather easily. I have to say most of the time the installer wizard is pretty good at that, even on the only windows OS I'm familiar with, Windows Millennium Edition. However, it almost always makes you feel like you're doing something extremely complicated.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:40 pm
by rudel_ic
On Linux, installing something is done with a one-liner on a shell, no further questions asked.

No-Brainer means that you don't have to remember how to do stuff. You've got a button, a menu point etc for everything. You can click yourself through a problem. It takes time (inefficient), but it's trivial.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:52 pm
by BunnyWithStick
What I meant was that it isn't simple and straightforward at all, a lot of the time.

And as I said earlier, most of the time it only makes you feel it's too complicated, when it isn't.

Linux is AFAIK rather easy to use if it tells you to enter in the appropriate commands, and doesn't involve changing the makefile or anything.

I can't say anything about linux though, as I've never used it.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:58 pm
by Zantalos
There's no way you can say Linux is easier than windows, especially about what's more complicated. Considering you have to run Linux with words instead of a pointer makes it 1000 times more difficult.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:00 pm
by BunnyWithStick
Actually, it only makes it about 2x as more difficult, it makes it 1000x more intimidating. :P

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:01 pm
by Zantalos
Yeah, it's insane.


REEEEEEMMMIIIIIX!!



Rewind that!

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:03 pm
by NickD
Isn't this against the rules :| ? Who gives a shit which opperating system is the best, anyways?

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:04 pm
by rudel_ic
There are GUI wrappers for anything in the common Linux distributions, so that you can fall back to clicking your way through if you feel like it.
It's not complicated to deal with Linux commandlines. You just have to read up what command you need with what flags (rtfm) and you're done.
I love that. I love typing, I hate clicking.