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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:28 pm
by v-nix
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jackeloh2.jpg

this guy is called Iris he is apart of a clan called the jackels,

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:15 pm
by invertin
Yet another V-nix drawing. Awesome. Is that the one you showed me today in school?

...So it is.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:16 pm
by David
Cool character! I like his armor design a lot. I think your line art and detail is very strong, but you could work on shading to make the volume more clear. Here is a quick paintover; my shading is really muddy from using the blurry photoshop brush, but it should show what I mean:
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:33 pm
by BunnyWithStick
I prefer the original. It has enough shading as it is.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:26 pm
by Zantalos
I think with shading this picture looks alot better. It's much more sharper and looks really profesional like. With extra shading, the 3-d levels in this guy goes through the roof, the armor surrounding his arm is much more recognized now that it casts a shadow over his hand.



I should have replied quicker before bws totally blind killed the best constructive critisizement I've ever seen before.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:05 am
by BunnyWithStick
Okay, I admit it, I mainly prefer the original because it looks better pencil-shaded. :P

Yeah, you could try shading them more, but it's pretty good as it is. Unless you're a perfectionist, of course.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:02 pm
by Crill3
I also like the original better, but I don't think David was trying to improve it
with "muddy" "blurry" photoshop brushing, but just point out some areas that
could be improved with more shading.

Also, as I think I've said before, v-nix is a great drawer :mrgreen:

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:15 pm
by Ultimatum479
Shading creates a different sort of atmosphere. Artistically I much prefer David's version, but if the character is meant to be some sort of goody-two-shoes, happy, family-friendly protagonist, the shading will ruin that. I'm exaggerating, of course, but basically, the shading gives him a somewhat darker look -- not necessarily evil, just less good, kinda like Turner. I prefer it by far, but it depends on the mood v-nix was trying to portray.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:44 pm
by Colicedus
BunnyWithStick wrote:Yeah, you could try shading them more, but it's pretty good as it is. Unless you're a perfectionist, of course.
Hence Why we love David to Make games, do graphics, and Generally, anything.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:03 pm
by BunnyWithStick
Except photoshop shade a pencil-drawn scanned image, of course. :P

Actually, he did pretty damn well on that considering how hard those brushes are to use sometimes.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:41 pm
by Ultimatum479
I'm still not entirely sure what you disliked about it, BwS, or how the original is in any way (other than what I mentioned) superior.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:21 pm
by BunnyWithStick
Considering the only difference is shading, it's obviously the shading I didn't like. It'd just look better if the (Extra) shading was done with a pencil like the rest of the drawing.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:56 pm
by Zantalos
BunnyWithStick wrote:Except photoshop shade a pencil-drawn scanned image, of course. :P

Actually, he did pretty damn well on that considering how hard those brushes are to use sometimes.
I'd trust David to do all that as well, looks like an awesome job to me.

And I'm not being easy because of how hard the brush tool is to use, I think the shading is very well detailed.

Colicedus wrote:
BunnyWithStick wrote:Yeah, you could try shading them more, but it's pretty good as it is. Unless you're a perfectionist, of course.
Hence Why we love David to Make games, do graphics, and Generally, anything.
QFT

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:26 am
by rudel_ic
CONTEST!

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:20 am
by invertin
I still prefer the original.