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This is why knowledge of grammar is important in order to minimize such "translation errors". But there's no point in this particular disagreement _being_ a disagreement: if Renegade would bother asking his English teacher about the proper use of a comma, looking it up online, or learning about it any other way, this would already be over.David wrote:It is pretty silly arguing on the internet; so much meaning is lost in converting a statement to text on a page that any disagreement will just continue to polarize indefinitely.
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No. I'm right.Ultimatum479 wrote:This is why knowledge of grammar is important in order to minimize such "translation errors". But there's no point in this particular disagreement _being_ a disagreement: if Renegade would bother asking his English teacher about the proper use of a comma, looking it up online, or learning about it any other way, this would already be over.David wrote:It is pretty silly arguing on the internet; so much meaning is lost in converting a statement to text on a page that any disagreement will just continue to polarize indefinitely.
I'm in college and have no "English teacher".
If we're going to talk about conjuctions and complete sentences, then "the irony" is DEFINITELY not a complete sentence and therefore your statement was wrong I guess? But that would be a silly argument for me to make...wouldn't it?Ultimatum479 wrote:Oh, the irony...
I found the following at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asyndeton :
Aristotle wrote in his Rhetoric that this device was more effective in spoken oratories than in written prose:
"Thus strings of unconnected words, and constant repetitions of words and phrases, are very properly condemned in written speeches: but not in spoken speeches — speakers use them freely, for they have a dramatic effect. In this repetition there must be variety of tone, paving the way, as it were, to dramatic effect; e.g. 'This is the villain among you who deceived you, who cheated you, who meant to betray you completely.'" Aristotle, Rhetoric, Book III, Chapter 12 (trans. W. Rhys Roberts).
Enough proof that I'm right? I think so.
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Ooh, that's mature.Renegade Turner wrote:No. I'm right.
Yes, I'm aware that standards have dropped these days. What's your point?Renegade Turner wrote:I'm in college...
I never stated that it was, hence my lack of proper punctuation at the end of it. (Before you claim that "..." _is_ a proper way to end a sentence, I'll save you the trouble of being proven wrong again: "...." is, while "..." is not.)Renegade Turner wrote:..."the irony" is DEFINITELY not a complete sentence...
You really _are_ retarded. You posted something which disproves your claim and thought it was evidence for your side. I can't begin to describe how pathetic that is.Renegade Turner didn't realize what he was posting when he wrote:"Thus strings of unconnected words, and constant repetitions of words and phrases, are very properly condemned in written speeches: but not in spoken speeches — speakers use them freely, for they have a dramatic effect."
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I get the feeling Godwin's Law is gonna come into effect pretty soon, in the form of "Grammar Nazi".
And might I point out that none of these misplaced commas would've actually caused any "Translation Errors"? They're perfectly readable either way, it just makes you sound funny.
Also, is it really that grammatically incorrect to put a comma before an "And"? It's generally accepted to be wrong, but half the time it seems appropriate, especially since a lot of people usually pause before they speak the word.
And might I point out that none of these misplaced commas would've actually caused any "Translation Errors"? They're perfectly readable either way, it just makes you sound funny.
Also, is it really that grammatically incorrect to put a comma before an "And"? It's generally accepted to be wrong, but half the time it seems appropriate, especially since a lot of people usually pause before they speak the word.
"That comma that you placed in that sentence was completely unnecessary, and was quite grammatically incorrect."
Ultimatum, why do you need to repeat the subject by including the word "it" in order to make it work? There is a comma rule that says you have to join two complete sentences in order to place a comma?
Ultimatum, why do you need to repeat the subject by including the word "it" in order to make it work? There is a comma rule that says you have to join two complete sentences in order to place a comma?
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