What's yer favorite operating system
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What's yer favorite operating system
Just curios to know who likes what
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Edit: Yup now I know where y'all standinn
P.S.=Windows is the only system ive had but i've worked a little on linux and it sucks[no offense just an opinion] havn't tried mac yet but I think it's good
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Edit: Yup now I know where y'all standinn
P.S.=Windows is the only system ive had but i've worked a little on linux and it sucks[no offense just an opinion] havn't tried mac yet but I think it's good
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Re: What's yer favorite operating system
Linux is no replacement for Windows. That's why you think it sucks - you expect Windows-like behavior and don't get that.NightDevil wrote: P.S.=Windows is the only system ive had but i've worked a little on linux and it sucks[no offense just an opinion] havn't tried mac yet but I think it's good
There's this ongoing discussion:
Do I want efficient interfaces or do I want interfaces that are easy to understand? Linux has the efficient, but unintuitive interfaces, Windows interfaces are a no-brainer but extremely inefficient.
Do I want all-in-one solutions or specialist programs? Windows has tons of programs that all do a lot of different stuff. Linux has very small functional elements you can stitch together in a script to do bigger procedural tasks.
Your opinion of Linux is not an opinion, you just don't know it. An opinion on Linux needs experience with it, expertise. If I had a day to form an opinion on the quality of a spacecraft, what would I be able to comment correctly? The shape? The colors? The toilet seat's softness?
Now you gained expertise in the Windows OS over the years and obviously can judge it. But after working a little with Linux, you think you can judge it and expect people to accept your opinion in the same way they accept your opinion of Windows? That's a joke, right?
Edit: And before you begin to complain like "Come on, it's my opinion": You won't get away with that. State why exactly Linux sucks in your opinion or feel punished.
Why not take Colicedus' approach: You can't say it sucks until you've designed a better one yourself?
To form an opinion that something sucks, all you need is one thing that you hate about it: "I hate Penguins, so Linux is the suxxor."
To argue that one is better than another, or recommend one over another, yes, then you better have more than cursory experience with it.
But he didn't say that, and you don't know what he was thinking or expecting, so you have less reason to comment on his opinion than he had to comment on Linux.
To form an opinion that something sucks, all you need is one thing that you hate about it: "I hate Penguins, so Linux is the suxxor."
To argue that one is better than another, or recommend one over another, yes, then you better have more than cursory experience with it.
But he didn't say that, and you don't know what he was thinking or expecting, so you have less reason to comment on his opinion than he had to comment on Linux.
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Hmm. You may be right, Usagi. Sorry for my harshness, NightDevil. But that's what happens when you post such statements on the internet.
All I want you to do is form an opinion that is based on experience.
In my opinion (hehe), it's really hard to not like Linux once you know how things are done with it.
It's just so much more productive than other OSes.
You know exactly what's going on when and why.
There are no reboot scenarios, no hangups and so on. You never lose control.
You can remodel your distribution on any level, reduce it to a minimal keystroke-driven environment or pump it up to show flashy 3D windows with multimedia pwnage and so on.
And the best part: You can recode programs, reuse program components via open interfaces and so on. Open Source is the win-win situation I've always been looking for before I got into Linux.
I'm using Linux and Windows parallely (I guess I've said that before) and I like them both for what they do right, but I hate Windows for what it does wrong. With Linux, there's nothing it does wrong in my usecases.
All I want you to do is form an opinion that is based on experience.
In my opinion (hehe), it's really hard to not like Linux once you know how things are done with it.
It's just so much more productive than other OSes.
You know exactly what's going on when and why.
There are no reboot scenarios, no hangups and so on. You never lose control.
You can remodel your distribution on any level, reduce it to a minimal keystroke-driven environment or pump it up to show flashy 3D windows with multimedia pwnage and so on.
And the best part: You can recode programs, reuse program components via open interfaces and so on. Open Source is the win-win situation I've always been looking for before I got into Linux.
I'm using Linux and Windows parallely (I guess I've said that before) and I like them both for what they do right, but I hate Windows for what it does wrong. With Linux, there's nothing it does wrong in my usecases.
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How many threads like this will we get?
Also, Windows isn't a no-brainer OS, it often forces you to do heaps of rather complicated things some times.
And if you compare installing something on a mac (Any OS version.) with installing something on a windows (Any OS version.) you'll probably find that mac does it all for you rather easily. I have to say most of the time the installer wizard is pretty good at that, even on the only windows OS I'm familiar with, Windows Millennium Edition. However, it almost always makes you feel like you're doing something extremely complicated.
Also, Windows isn't a no-brainer OS, it often forces you to do heaps of rather complicated things some times.
And if you compare installing something on a mac (Any OS version.) with installing something on a windows (Any OS version.) you'll probably find that mac does it all for you rather easily. I have to say most of the time the installer wizard is pretty good at that, even on the only windows OS I'm familiar with, Windows Millennium Edition. However, it almost always makes you feel like you're doing something extremely complicated.
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On Linux, installing something is done with a one-liner on a shell, no further questions asked.
No-Brainer means that you don't have to remember how to do stuff. You've got a button, a menu point etc for everything. You can click yourself through a problem. It takes time (inefficient), but it's trivial.
No-Brainer means that you don't have to remember how to do stuff. You've got a button, a menu point etc for everything. You can click yourself through a problem. It takes time (inefficient), but it's trivial.
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What I meant was that it isn't simple and straightforward at all, a lot of the time.
And as I said earlier, most of the time it only makes you feel it's too complicated, when it isn't.
Linux is AFAIK rather easy to use if it tells you to enter in the appropriate commands, and doesn't involve changing the makefile or anything.
I can't say anything about linux though, as I've never used it.
And as I said earlier, most of the time it only makes you feel it's too complicated, when it isn't.
Linux is AFAIK rather easy to use if it tells you to enter in the appropriate commands, and doesn't involve changing the makefile or anything.
I can't say anything about linux though, as I've never used it.
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There are GUI wrappers for anything in the common Linux distributions, so that you can fall back to clicking your way through if you feel like it.
It's not complicated to deal with Linux commandlines. You just have to read up what command you need with what flags (rtfm) and you're done.
I love that. I love typing, I hate clicking.
It's not complicated to deal with Linux commandlines. You just have to read up what command you need with what flags (rtfm) and you're done.
I love that. I love typing, I hate clicking.